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On Oct 14, 2004 I turned the forum back on.

After 1 month, I'm assigning moderators and turning the forum back on. Hopefully the forum will become a place where people can actually communicate and get advice. If not, It will go away for good.

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On Sept 14, 2004 I turned off the Synthesizers.com forum.

Closing Statement
The forum has become a place where even the simpilist posting can become a hacking fest. Virtually every post I make is meet with some negative vibe, complaints, moaning or arguments. This prevents me from carrying on conversations in public where others can benefit - which is one of the main reasons a forum exists.

The postings that do not include helpful information are dwindling at a time when the membership is rising. Did anyone notice we hit 500 members this week? I suppose this is a common fate of public forums.

It's not my nature, and my time doesn't allow me, to moderate this forum with an iron fist. I expect members to act like adults. Virtually all do, but sadly they are usually lurkers, not posters. The lurkers email me privately as conversations driven by a small minority go out of control. They do this because the forum has become a place where the kinder spirits are squashed.

So, I will take the hit and turn off the forum. It's just not worth getting people upset. This will impact synthesizers.com I'm sure, but it's for the better.

Synthesizers.com will continue to make great products (and new ones) - and I will continue to be available to my customers and my would-be customers via email as I always have.


Some Email Responses to the forum closing
This is sad but I understand your point of view.

For what it is worth; you make great musical instruments. Everything else is of lesser importance.

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It's been (mostly) fun and great to have been part of this group. I've learned a lot from a lot of you guys, and I'm sad that Roger's pulling the plug.

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Sorry to see the forum go, but I do agree with the points you make. It's sad to see something that was once so useful deteriorate to the point it has. I don't know why people behave this way on forum's but they do. It's sort of like the way perfectly nice people act when they get behind the wheel of a car and drive aggresively cutting people off and flipping them off. Things they would never think of doing in person. Thiere has been a lot of great help and information on this list over the last few years. If anyone questions why you have done this just point them to the last 100 messages and tell them to read for themselves. I'm reminded of the time I wrote you apologizing for the manners of some on the AH list when you first went public with the dotcoms. I have felt the need to do this several times recently for this list.... Thanks again, and I do still plan to buy a dotcom system as soon as life's little financial interferences let me.

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This is a sad decision, but it is one for you to make. Still, I respect your decision as I respect you as a person. As an aside to this, I would like to thank everyone on the forum for the help that they have given me, via said forum.

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I'm sorry to read that it had to come to this. I don't blame you. I wrote to [....] the same thing last week. That it is unfortunate that there are people out there that can't keep there negative side to themselves. At any opportunity that I have I will always promote you and your products. Thanks for the help you have given me, I have always appreciated it.

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Respectfully, I think you might be underestimating the value of a customer forum... it's especially valuable when you consider the context - yours is a complex product with about a zillion possible configurations, and no one "right" way to do things. That's the ideal situation for a user forum where people can share their experiences.

As my dad used to say, there are more horse's asses than horses in the world. Anyone who would give you grief over something like that deserves a swift kick in the head, not to mention being kicked off the list. I haven't followed the thread that I think you're referencing, but regardless of who's involved, that just sounds disrespectful and rude. I don't blame you one bit for being upset about it.

For what it's worth, I have nothing but the highest regard for you, [.....] and anyone else who's got the huevos to build and market a modular synth in this day and age. You're absolutely right that you shouldn't have to tolerate guff from the peanut gallery. Still, I'm not sure that means you need to ditch the whole forum.

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Sad to see the forum close. But quite understandably. It HAS become more and more hostile. Ive been one of the lurkers - never had a synthesizers.com synth - started out with a Doepfer - but have learned quite a lot (espescially in the early days of the forum) just by reading the posts - as Modular synthesizer patches (as you know) are not specific to one brand - but can be duplicated on others.

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I think that everybody understands your point. By the way- Im in the process of writing a book about modular synthesizers and would like to include a picture of one of your modular systems - Is it ok for me to "grab" a pic. from your website and use in the book? - You will of course get a chance to approve my choice.

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I think you are doing the right thing regarding the Fourm. I did learn a lot from it, but now days it's more egos and negitivity, than synthesizers.

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I can't say that I'm sorry to see the forum go, but I am sorry for the state it was in when it was shut off. At the beginning it was very helpful, and occasionally in the past few years there were some good discussions about actual synth.com products. However I think you did the right thing by removing yourself from a forum that had gotten completely out of hand.

Everyone who has passed through the forum has had nothing but the utmost respect for you and your products, services, and support. Count me also as one of the appreciative. Heck, more than that... for a great many people you have made some of our lifelong dreams a reality. I can understand that you would want your "official" communications with the outside world to adhere to the same high standards by which you do business... that is just not possible on a Yahoo forum.

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Sorry to hear that you had to discontinue the forum, however I respect your decision. I enjoyed the forum, and even though I have been involved with synthesizers for 30 years, it gave me the opportunity to learn and expand my knowledge. It is very unfortunate that a few rude and inmature individuals have ruined it for the rest of us. I am enjoying my system and hopefully I will be able to add another cabinet soon.

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Roger, Id like to encourage you to reconsider the recent forum closing. I didnt really follow what was going on and probably skipped over a lot of posts that caused you to take this action, but the forum was definitely a valuable source of information, especially as I was making my purchase decision.

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Doggonnit Roger, inspite of all the "stuff", I enjoyed reading it. it was negative, but informative. I no longer have any reason for email. But thanx for the ride, while it lasted.

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Sorry about that yahoo group mess, by the time I got on it was already getting pretty useless.

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